Hallo! Me presento C:

Schicklgruber escribió:Ver tipos raquiticos en campos de concentración no prueba nada. O ver montones de ropa por que les pasaban allá. Aparte en 1911 habían 500.000 judíos y derrepente pum, 4.500.000 mas. ¿Igual tal vez dios mando a todos eso para el campo no? Cifras imposibles para locuras imposibles. Es rídiculo solo pensar eso, hoy hay con suerte 13.000.000 en todo el planeta, y en esa epoca en suelo germano iban a haber mucho mas de 6.000.000, hahaha. Es un infantílismo tan grande, si apoyan al Holocuento también apoyan la represión contra el magnifico pueblo arabe no?

Igual comprendo por que ayudan a su hermano judío... mas que hermano... padre y madre.

Thiago escribió:

Siéntase cómodo Schicklgruber, usted no desentona, es uno más de tantos otros que no son comunistas y pueblan este foro expresándose con la libertad que ya quisiéramos los marxista-leninistas en otros frentes.

Es más, le sugiero que no sea tímido, que cambie de nick, que asuma abiertamente como nick el nombre conocido de su héroe y que ponga la foto mundialmente conocida de su líder máximo.

De acuerdo a los criterios manejados en el foro, usted servirá de punching ball, para avivar el debate que los comunistas deben mantener con los defensores de la ideología burguesa, y en este caso con una de sus manifestaciones más reaccionarias y pedestres. Usted servirá para que los comunistas del foro se unan contra sus intervenciones de derecha. Su participación beneficiará, en última instancia, a este foro porque sus intervenciones servirán de base para desenmascarar al nazismo.

Podría enumerarle una serie de razones que expliquen la utilidad de su registro en el foro.... !Heil Schicklgruber! (Así de cacofónico y ridículo habría sonado el saludo si su héroe hubiera mantenido el apellido familiar)

Sin embargo... pregunto a los comunistas de este foro... ¿es necesario esto?

Schicklgruber escribió:Ahora salgo, mas rato vuelvo a refutar los cuentos ok? Tirate su Hanzel und Gretyl por que aburre el holocuento, o risitos de oro. Bye!

El Generalplan Ost (GPO) fue un plan secreto nazi de genocidio1 y limpieza étnica, concebido para ser realizado en los territorios ocupados por Alemania en Europa del Este durante la Segunda Guerra Mundial. El plan, preparado en los años 1939-1940, era parte del propio plan de Adolf Hitler de ampliar el Lebensraum alemán y la realización de la ideología del Drang nach Osten a favor de una expansión alemana hacia el este.


El grupo encargado del esbozo de este plan fue la Oficina Central de Seguridad del Reich (Reichssicherheitshauptamt - RSHA), el órgano de seguridad de las SS que era responsable en la lucha contra todos los enemigos del Nazismo. Se trata de un documento estrictamente confidencial y su contenido era conocido solo por aquellos que se encontraban en el más alto nivel de la jerarquía nazi.
Según el testimonio del SS-Standartenführer Dr. Hans Ehlich (uno de los testigos en el caso VIII anterior a los Juicios secundarios de Nürenberg), la versión final fue elaborada en 1940. Como un alto oficial de la RSHA, Ehlich era el responsable de la redacción del Generalplan Ost. Un precedente a este había sido el Ostforshung, una serie de estudios y proyectos de investigación llevados a cabo a lo largo de varios años por centros académicos para proveer la información necesaria. Las versiones preliminares fueron discutidas por el jefe de la SS Heinrich Himmler y sus colegas más confiables, incluso antes del estallido de la guerra. Esta circunstancia fue mencionada por el SS-Obergruppenführer Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski durante su testimonio en el juicio de oficiales de la Oficina Central de Raza y Asentamiento de la SS (SS-Rasse- und Siedlungshauptamt).
Casi toda la documentación del tiempo de la guerra sobre el Generalplan Ost fue deliberadamente destruida poco después de la derrota alemana en mayo de 1945.2 Luego, no se encontró ninguna copia del plan después de la guerra entre los documentos guardados en los archivos alemanes. No obstante, el hecho de que tal documento fue creado y usado por oficiales nazis está fuera de duda. Además del testimonio de Ehlich, existen varios documentos que hacen referencia a este plan o lo complementan. Aunque ninguna copia del documento real sobrevivió, muchos de los elementos esenciales del plan han sido reconstruidos a partir de memorandum, resumenes y otros documentos auxiliares.
Un documento principal que hizo posible la recreación del contenido del Generalplan Ost con gran precisión es un memo del 27 de abril de 1942 titulado Stellungnahme und Gedanken zum Generalplan Ost des Reichsführers SS ("Opiniones e ideas referentes al Plan General para el Este, del Reichsführer) y escrito por dr. Erich Wetzel, el director de la Oficina central de consejería sobre las cuestiones de política racial en el Partido Nacionalsocialista Alemán de los Trabajadores.

Propaganda supremacista y racista Nazi respecto a los rusos bolcheviques.

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"Subhumanos"

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These sadistically tortured and hanged Russian men were not partisans. They were Red Army soldiers, common prisoners-of-war captured by the Wehrmacht.
Take notice that they were tortured and murdered not by the SS or Einsatzgruppen, but by regular German troops near the front line. On the right photo above: this barbarically mutilated Russian soldier was found crucified and frozen to death near Stalingrad, after the city had been liberated.

las ultimas imagenes corresponden a la Whermatch, osease, que no eran siquiera los psicopatas de las SS o Einsatzgruppen. Soldados crucificados del Ejercito rojo y prendidos fuego vivos. Esto es lo que hacian con SOLDADOS, imaginaos lo que tubieron que hacer para cargarse 20 millones de civiles. Algo alucinante.

El pasatiempo de la Whermatch con soldados prisioneros. Les hacian cavar su propia tumba , hacian fotos, se jactaban y los ejecutaban , todo esto, con fotitos como sourvenir del frente.

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The Note from People’s Commissar for Foreign Affairs, Vyacheslav Molotov, dated 25 November 1941, contained the following appalling details:

"Members of the Soviet Red Army, when being captured by the German Wehrmacht, were tortured with red-hot irons, their eyes were put out, legs, arms, ears and nose were cut off, their stomach slit open, they were tied to tanks and torn to pieces . . . "

The mass burning alive of peaceful, non-combatant
peasant Russians: women, children, and elderly people
locked up in their wooden huts, barns, granaries, or churches
used to be a favourite "game" of the barbarian German soldiery


"... Confident in approaching victory, the Germans took a sadistic pleasure in the repression. How agreeable to combine duty and sport; to bask in the glow of the crusader while enjoying the particular physical pleasure which so many Germans derive from the infliction of pain. In the long summer evenings "man hunts" used to be organised on the slightest pretext, villages surrounded, set alight, and the inhabitants "beaten" like rising game birds and cut down in the streets.
Then it was rewarding to loot the dwellings for "souvenirs" and to send these, and photographs of the scene, to friends and the family back in Germany. Accompanied, for instance, with such an inscription as this one: '... here is a lock of hair from a Russian girl. Before the death she fought like a wild-cat and was quite subhuman (Untermensch) . . .' "

From the book Barbarossa, by Alan Clark, New York, Morrow, 1965, page 154.

La mente enferma y psicopata de las tropas NAZIs estaban tan adoctrinadas y tenian tanta FE en su nazismo que consideraban animales al resto, y se dedicaban a la caza en la retaguardia con civiles, se hacian fotos con las "piezas de caza" y las mandaban a sus mujeres y familias a alemania!!




A RUSSIAN BOY MURDERED BY GERMAN OCCUPANTS
JUST FOR FUN IN ROSTOV, 28 NOVEMBER 1941

This Russian boy with a dove in his hand, Vitya (Victor) Cherevichkin by name, was killed by German soldiers just for nothing in Rostov, 1941 . . . The Wehrmacht "warriors" used to commit their heinous crimes simply out of the feeling of impunity and for sadistic pleasure.

A Monument to Vitya Cherevichkin in Rostov Before killing him, the German pigs had cruelly beaten and mutilated Vitya Cherevichkin. They were kicking the boy in the head with their heavy boots so that his face became difficult to recognize when his mother found him dead among the other victims on the next day in the city park.
Obviously, at the final moment of his life Vitya Cherevichkin decided to release his favourite dove that was hidden in his bosom . . . But it was too late – in the next second the boy and his dove were shot and killed by the smiling Wehrmacht soldiers.

Which is just another one reason why we Russians hate moronic smiles!

When on 14th February 1943 Soviet troops liberated the city of Rostov-on-Don they found that 40,000 civilian inhabitants had been killed by the Germans, while another 53,000 Russian people had been deported to the forced labour camps in the Third Reich. Totally, during the occupation, the German brutes murdered 13,000,000 peaceful Russian civilians: women, children and old people.

A monument to Vitya Cherevichkin was erected in Rostov-on-Don near the site of his martyrized death.


". . . The atrocities of the 'Death's Head' (Totenkopf) units of the SS which systematically murdered schoolchildren and poured gasolin over hospital inmates were the expression of a deliberate policy of terror, 'justified' by half-baked racial notions, but implemented with a perverse and sadistic relish . . ."

From the book Barbarossa, by Alan Clark, New York, Morrow, 1965, page 417

la historia de este niño entre todas las demas, inspiro a muchos solados del Ejercito Rojo que se batieron formidablemente contra los pertutbados NAZIs y sus aliados fascistas.

Este niño salio a la calle en su ciudad ocupada por los NAZIs a liberar a su paloma, fue interceptado por unos NAZIs . Lo mataron y estubieron mutilandolo por placer despues incluso de muerto.

Este es Vitya Cherevichkin

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Asesinato de niños sovieticos , torturados y ejecutados por NAZIs. Vete a saber tu que más hicieron estos perturbados a niños... Los muertos y quemados, no pueden hablar, y como era el pasatiempo de esta escoria incinerar a civiles vivos asi uno quitaba pruebas de que mas hacian a los niños, niñas y mujeres.

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Una madre con sus hijos asesinada, incluido el bebe de dos meses que hay en el pecho de ella.
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Esto es la esencia de la perturbación maxima que crea el capitalismo. Uno ya se cree la raza superior y llama al resto subhumanos, y al final, a esa bestia no se la puede ni considerar ni un animal. No existe animal capaz de hacer algo semejante en la naturaleza, solo la escoria residual del capitalismo , la moral perturbada que crea es capaz de convertir a Humanos , en autenticos monstruos.

While the treatment of POW's by the Germans was extremely harsh, it was not as bad as the treatment of Russian civilians, who for the most part had not even fought the Germans.
Nazi propaganda had convinced the men in the Wehrmacht to view the Russians as a "conglomeration of animals." The Germans under their Nazi leaders were insanely bent upon the enslavement or butchery of all "Untermenschen" – "subhumans".
This policy was implemented in the criminal orders which provided the German army with a blank cheque for the mass killing of civilians. And this they did.
A resident of Leningrad at the time noted that the Germans "killed without regarding age or sex." No safety was guaranteed to refugees. By late July 1941, the German army went as far as to start shooting all refugees. Russian civilians were also shot for such reasons as breaking curfew or being caught outside without a pass. In an effort to hamper partisan activity, houses in which the Germans thought partisans were hiding were burned with the occupants inside.


Civiles refugiados que intentaban escapar del avance de las hordas NAZIs , masacrados con ametralladoras.

" . . . [ During the occupation ] if a German thought, as he passed you in the street, that you had given him a dirty look, that was enough. To kill a human being – it was as easy as stepping on a worm and squashing it! . . . "

From the book Russia At War, 1941-1945, by Alexander Werth, London, Pan Books Ltd., 1964, page 794.

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"The instruction for a German soldier in Russia" which was in use by Wehrmacht's personnel, read:
'You should not either to take things to heart or to worry.
Forget your sympathy and compassion.
Kill any Russian or Soviet citizen.
Do never stop at anything, whether you see an old man, or a woman, or a boy, or a girl in front of you.
Kill!
It will save you from death.
It will provide your family with a future.
It will bring eternal glory to you.'

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See also: Conduct of Troops in Eastern Territories
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A German Field Marshal Instructs the Wehrmacht on Its Role in the Soviet Union.


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Mujer violada y asesinada con su hijo llorando.....
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Collective measures were also used against civilians. For instance on January 30, 1942, after a German sled had driven on some mines in the vicinity of the village of Novye Ladomiry, the whole male population of the village was shot and the houses burned down as a 'collective measure'. With the Germans treating the peaceful civilian population like this it is no wonder they quickly deserved profound hatred.


ROUTINE PUBLIC EXECUTIONS BY THE WEHRMACHT
IN RUSSIA, BELORUSSIA AND THE UKRAINE
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Immediately after another one Belorussian, Ukrainian or Russian town being captured, the first action invariably taken by the Wehrmacht (I emphasize: by the Wehrmacht!) was mass public executions – usually the summary hanging from the main street balconies, and everywhere around the town, of several dozens of local inhabitants, caught at random in the streets and branded as 'communists', just to intimidate the rest of the population and to show them clearly who was to be from now on a 'New Master' here.

As a rule, all the hanged innocent victims' corpses were to remain dangling from the ropes along the streets for a week's time, or so. In order to enforce and prolong the intimidation effect the Germans would not allow to remove and bury the hanged people until their bodies would begin to decompose.


ROUTINE PUBLIC EXECUTIONS BY THE WEHRMACHT
IN ORDER TO TERRIFY THE LOCAL POPULATION
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BELORUSSIA, MINSK UNDER GERMAN OCCUPATION
CIVILIAN PEOPLE HANGED IN THE STREET
FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTIMIDATION

Now, a bit of terrible arithmetic.
If we accept the minimum number of the people hanged by the German invaders in each newly captured Russian TOWN as 12 persons only, and the minimum number of those hanged in each newly captured Russian VILLAGE as 6 persons, then we shall come to the following figures:
1,700 captured Russian towns multiplied by 12 = 20,400 hanged persons.
70,000 captured Russian villages mulitplied by 6 = 42,000 hanged persons.
The total sum is 62,400 peaceful Russian civilian people hanged in each Russian town and village on the FIRST DAY OF THE GERMAN OCCUPATION just only for the purpose of intimidation.

Remember: this total of 62,400 hanged innocent people is ONLY the number of "the first day victims", without counting all the other innumerable deliberately merciless, sadistic and systematic murders of Russian civilians during the whole period of the German occupation in 1941 – 1944, which eventually resulted in a total of 13 million Russian civilian non-combatant innocent martyrs.
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" . . . The public executions of 'communists' and other 'suspects' – usually branded 'partisans' – were common practice in the towns and villages occupied by the Germans. Since these executions frequently took place 'on the first day' of the occupation, they were apparently the work not of any special detachments under Himler, but of members of the Army itself . . . The fact that executions were carried out by the Army is persistently denied by German generals, but, according to the Russian eyewitnesses I saw in 1942, it was 'ordinary soldiers' who did the hanging . . . "

From the book Russia At War, 1941-1945, by Alexander Werth, London, Pan Books Ltd., 1964, page 348.



Ahora fotos , Souvenirs de soldados NAZIs que mandaban a sus madres , mujeres y familias de alemania. Vamos, perturbados, todos. Se ve que esta practica es comun entre los anglosajones,(vease IRAK)


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Ahora comparemos con las fotos Souvenir del Ejercito Rojo.

La cara de la escoria NAZI lo dice todo, jajajajaja. Solo espero que pagase por todo este aborto de animal humano.
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A YOUNG RUSSIAN SOLDIER POSES
FOR A SOUVENIR PHOTO FROM BERLIN 1945
TO SEND TO THE FAMILY AT HOME IN RUSSIA

Que alguien encuentre una sola foto de solados Sovieticos posando y jactandose de las ejecuciones o muertes que hacen cual trofeos.


As a New-York-based historian, T. Kunikov, correctly writes:

"The worst atrocities, committed on both sides on the Eastern Front, were official policy on the German side, and spontaneous acts of disobedience on the Soviet side."
"This is very important to understand when viewing the differences of both army's and governments. It was the POLICY of the Wehrmacht and the Third Reich/Nazi Party/Hitler to let their armed forces/soldiers commit atrocities on the Eastern front, the same simply cannot be said for the Red Army."

Source: Kunikov Blog



Esto son las hordaz NAZIs muertos al lado de Stalingrado

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Pagaron no como merecian loq ue hicieron pero algo se llevaron.

The document below is, with minor alterations for clarity's sake, the official English-language translation of the original German document as presented in evidence at the Nuremberg military tribunals assembled in order to try suspected war criminals. The original German document is also available. (source: John Mendelsohn, ed., The Holocaust: Selected Documents in Eighteen Volumes. Vol. 10: The Einsatzgruppen or Murder Commandos [New York: Garland, 1982], pp. 11-12])


In this document, Field Marshal Walter von Reichenau (1884-1942) of the German Sixth Army, in the southern sector of the German assault on the Soviet Union, reacts to reports of the softness of his troops by instilling them with particularly strong statements about their role in suppressing communism and Soviet Jewry. Reichenau was known as one of the most strongly Nazi of the leading German Wehrmacht (army) commanders. He died of a stroke only a few months after he issued this document to his troops. Other German commanders in the Soviet Union also used this document to instruct their troops. For further information, see Omer Bartov, Hitler's Army: Soldiers, Nazis, and War in the Third Reich (New York: Oxford University Press, 1991), pp. 129-30.

Translation of Document No. NOKW-309 Continued Copy AOK 6

Sect. Ia-File No. 7

Army H.Qu., 10 October 1941

Subject: Conduct of Troops in Eastern Territories.

Regarding the conduct of troops towards the bolshevistic system, vague ideas are still prevalent in many cases. The most essential aim of war against the Jewish-bolshevistic system is a complete destruction of their means of power and the elimination of Asiatic influence from the European culture. In this connection the troops are facing tasks which exceed the one-sided routine of soldiering. The soldier in the Eastern territories is not merely a fighter according to the rules of the art of war but also a bearer of ruthless national ideology and the avenger of bestialities which have been inflicted upon German and racially related nations.

Therefore the soldier must have full understanding for the necessity of a severe but just revenge on subhuman Jewry. The Army has to aim at another purpose, i.e. the annihilation of revolts in hinterland, which, as experience proves, have always been caused by Jews.

The combating of the enemy behind the front line is still not being taken seriously enough. Treacherous, cruel partisans and degenerate women are still being made prisoners-of-war and guerilla fighters dressed partly in uniform or plain clothes and vagabonds are still being treated as proper soldiers, and sent to prisoner-of-war camps. In fact, captured Russian officers talk even mockingly about Soviet agents moving openly about the roads and very often eating at German field kitchens. Such an attitude of the troops can only be explained by complete thoughtlessness, so it is now high time for the commanders to clarify the meaning of the pressing struggle.

The feeding of the natives and of prisoners-of-war who are not working for the Armed forces from Army kitchens is an equally misunderstood humanitarian act as is the giving of cigarettes and bread. Things which the people at home can spare under great sacrifices and things which are being bought by the command to the front under great difficulties, should not be given to the enemy by the soldier even if they originate from booty. It is an important part of our supply.

When retreating the Soviets have often set buildings on fire. The troops should be interested in extinguishing of fires only as far as it is necessary to secure sufficient numbers of billets. Otherwise the disappearance of symbols of the former bolshevistic rule even in the form of buildings is part of the struggle of destruction. Neither historic nor artistic considerations are of any importance in the Eastern territories. The command issues the necessary directives for the securing of raw material and plants, essential for war economy. The complete disarming of the civilian population in the rear of the fighting troops is imperative considering the long vulnerable lines of communications. Where possible, captured weapons and ammunition should be stored and guarded. Should this be impossible because of the situation of the battle, the weapons and ammunition will be rendered useless. If isolated partisans are found using firearms in the rear of the army drastic measures are to be taken. These measures will be extended to that part of the male population who were in a position to hinder or report the attacks. The indifference of numerous apparently anti-Soviet elements which originates from a "wait and see" attitude, must give way to a clear decision for active collaboration. If not, no one can complain about being judged and treated a member of the Soviet system.

The fear of German counter-measures must be stronger than threats of the wandering bolshevistic remnants. Regardless of all future political considerations the soldier has to fulfill two tasks:

1.) Complete annihilation of the false Bolshevist doctrine of the Soviet State and its armed forces.

2.) The pitiless extermination of foreign treachery and cruelty and thus the protection of the lives of military personnel in Russia.

This is the only way to fulfill our historic task to liberate the German people once and for all from the Asiatic-Jewish danger.

Commander-in-Chief

(signed) von Reichenau

Field Marshal

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The Wehrmacht, the Holocaust, and War Crimes
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Order #21 Signed by Keitel Concerning Jurisdiction of Miitary, SS, and Police Forces During Barbarossa, 13 March 1941
Fuhrer Decree on Disciplining of German Troops and Handling of Resistance in District Area "Barbarossa", 13 May 1941
Heydrich Directives Concerning Handling of USSR Prisoners of War, 28 June 1941/July 1941
Hitler's Order of the Day to Troops on the Eastern Front, October 2, 1941
Keitel Order Concerning Ruthless Suppression of Resistance in Occupied USSR, 16 September 1941
The copy reproduced of this document is dated 16 September 1941. The date given in the collation of the list of documents, Vol. 8 of the series, p.816, is 16 December 1941
Statement by the Commissar of Foreign Affairs of the USSR, Molotov, on German Attrocities in Occupied USSR, 1941
Rosenberg Letter to Keitel Concerning Maltreatment of USSR Prisoners of War, 28 February 1942
Combatting Single Parachutists, Keitel Order, 4 August 1942
Fuehrer Order Concerning Handling of Commandos, 18 October 1942
Memorandum by Brautigam Concerning Conditions in Occupied Areas of the USSR 25 October 1942
Kugel Erlass ("Bullet Decree"), 4 March 1944
Decree stipulating that escaped POWs are to be handed over to the SD for handling. They were then sent to Mauthausen Concentration Camp where they were executed.
A Short Historical Consideration of German War Guilt, by Alfred Jodl, 6 September 1945
The Origins of the Directives of the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, by Wilhelm Keitel, 15 September 1945
The Position and Powers of the Chief of the OKW, by Wilhelm Keitel, 9 October 1946
Notes by Keitel Concerning Actions of German Armed Forces During the War and in Occupied Territory 19 October 1945
These notes were prepared by Wilhelm Keitel, Chief of the High Command of the German Armed Forces, OKW, for the Chief of Investigation before the Nurnberg Tribunal, Mr. Dodd. They are noteworthy for the accounts advanced to justify those policies classified by the Allied powers as war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Affidavit of Generaloberst Franz Halder 22 November, 1945
This affidavit is of interest in connection with the decisions relating to the Anschluss, the invasions of Czechoslovakia, Poland and France, the approach of the OKW to the neutrality of Belgium and Holland, the reasons for the attack on the USSR, and details concerning the Commissar Order and the handling of USSR POWs.
Affidavit of Otto Ohlendorf, 20 November 1945
Ohlendorf was a senior officer in the RSHA, an early Nazi Party member (1925) and, most importantly, the commander of Einsatzgruppe D, which was one of four special purpose Action Groups charged with the extermination of Jews, Commissars, Partisans and other "undesirable" segments of the USSR populace.
Political Way by Otto Ohlendorf, 20 November 1945
Otto Ohlendorf, commander of Einsatzgruppe D, expounds his views on Fascism and National Socialism:
"These principles advocated, as the foremost goal of National Socialism, to develop the best characteristics of the people and to form them into a community of equality and to furnish the best possible spiritual and moral existence for the individuals of the people."
Testimony of Erwin Lahousen before the International Military Tribunal, Nuremberg, 30 November 1945
Trial of General Von Mackensen and General Maelzer. United Nations War Crimes Commission, 1949
Trial of Albert Kesserling. United Nations War Crimes Commission. 1949
The Dreierwalde Case. Trial of Karl Amberger. United Nations War Crimes Commission, 1947
Trial of Carl Bauer, Ernst Schrameck, Herbert Falten. United Nations War Crimes Commission. 1949
Affidavit of Erwin Lahousen, 21 January 1946
Lahousen served in the Abwehr, the intelligence service of the OKW, between 1938 and 1943. He was one of Canaris' section chiefs and represented him at various conferences with senior OKW officers. His affidavit, provided to investigating officers for the Nuremberg Tribunal of the Major German War Criminals, provides information concerning plans for the destruction of elites in Poland and the killings of Russian POWs, and the attitude of senior OKW officers to them, particularly Keitel and Reinecke. Only those portions of the affidavit relating to policies pursued respecting the populations of occupied countries and war crimes are reproduced here.
German Crimes Against Soviet Prisoners-of-War in Poland. Central Commission for the Investigation of German Crimes in Poland. 1946
Nuremberg Charges
Hans Frank (Governor-General of non-annexed occupied Poland)
Alfred Jodl
Ernst Kaltenbrunner (Chief of the RSHA 1943-1945)
Wilhelm Keitel
Alfred Rosenberg
Artur Seyss-Inquart Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
Julius Streicher
The General Staff and High Command of the Armed Forces Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV, Part V
The SS, Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV, Part V
The Geheime Staatspolizei (GESTAPO) and Sicherheitsdienst (SD) Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV, Part V, Part VI
Nuremberg Judgments
Frank, Goering, Jodl, Kaltenbrunner, Keitel, Rosenberg, Saukel, Streicher
Other Relevant Files
Book Reviews: Warfare, Third Reich
Documents Relating to the Holocaust, War Crimes and Genocide
Occupation Country Policies
Poland
USSR
Occupation Country Policies
USSR
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Order #21 Signed by Keitel Concerning Jurisdiction of Miitary, SS, and Police Forces During Barbarossa, 13 March 1941
Fuhrer Decree on Disciplining of German Troops and Handling of Resistance in District Area "Barbarossa", 13 May 1941
Communication from the Commissar for White Ruthenia, Kube, to Rosenberg, Concerning Appropriation of Cultural Objects by the SS and the Wehrmacht, 29 September 1941
Secret Field Marshal v.Reichenau Order Concerning Conduct of Troops in the Eastern Territories. Dated 10 October, 1941
Correspondence and Report Concerning the Aktion of Police Battalion 11 in Sluzk, 27 October 1941
Molotov's Note on German Atrocities in Occupied Soviet Territory, 7 January 1942
Rosenberg Letter to Keitel Concerning Maltreatment of USSR Prisoners of War, 28 February 1942
Reinecke Order Concerning Treatment of Soviet Prisoners of War, March 24, 1942
A Short Historical Consideration of German War Guilt, by Alfred Jodl, 6 September 1945
Memorandum by Brautigam Concerning Conditions in Occupied Areas of the USSR 25 October 1942
Affidavit of Otto Ohlendorf, 20 November 1945
Ohlendorf was a senior officer in the RSHA, an early Nazi Party member (1925) and, most importantly, the commander of Einsatzgruppe D, which was one of four special purpose Action Groups charged with the extermination of Jews, Commissars, Partisans and other "undesirable" segments of the USSR populace.
Political Way by Otto Ohlendorf, 20 November 1945
Otto Ohlendorf, commander of Einsatzgruppe D, expounds his views on Fascism and National Socialism:
"These principles advocated, as the foremost goal of National Socialism, to develop the best characteristics of the people and to form them into a community of equality and to furnish the best possible spiritual and moral existence for the individuals of the people."
Testimony of Erwin Lahousen before the International Military Tribunal, Nuremberg, 30 November 1945
Affidavit of Erwin Lahousen, 21 January 1946
Lahousen served in the Abwehr, the intelligence service of the OKW, between 1938 and 1943. He was one of Canaris' section chiefs and represented him at various conferences with senior OKW officers. His affidavit, provided to investigating officers for the Nuremberg Tribunal of the Major German War Criminals, provides information concerning plans for the destruction of elites in Poland and the killings of Russian POWs, and the attitude of senior OKW officers to them, particularly Keitel and Reinecke. Only those portions of the affidavit relating to policies pursued respecting the populations of occupied countries and war crimes are reproduced here.
Alfred Rosenberg (Nuremberg Tribunal Charges, 1945)
German Crimes Against Soviet Prisoners-of-War in Poland. Central Commission for the Investigation of German Crimes in Poland. 1946
Nuremberg Charges
The General Staff and High Command of the Armed Forces Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV, Part V
Order #21Signed By Keitel Concerning Jurisdiction of
Military, SS, and Police Forces During Barbarossa
TOP SECRET
Top Secret
Only thru officer
OKW
Armed Forces Operational Staff
Section L (IV/ Qu)
44125/ 41 Top Secret
Fuehrer Hq, 13 March 1941
5 copies, 4th copy
Subject: Armed Forces Operational Staff/ Section L( I) #33408/ 40. Top Secret. 18 December 1940
Directives for Special Areas to Order #21 (Case Barbarossa)
I. Area of operations and executive power
1. The authorization to issue orders and the regulations regarding supply for an area of operations within the armed forces shall be set up by the High Command of the Armed Forces in East Prussia and in the General Gouvernement at the latest four weeks before operations are started. The proposal by the High Command of the Army (OKH) is being made in time, after an agreement with the Commander of the Luftwaffe (Ob. d. L.) has been reached.
It is not contemplated to declare East Prussia and the General Gouvernement an area of operations. However, in accordance with the unpublished Fuehrer orders from 19 and 21 October 1939, the Supreme Commander of the Army shall be authorized to take all measures necessary for the execution of his military aim and for the safeguarding of the troops. He may transfer his authority onto the Supreme Commander of the Army Groups and Armies. Orders of that kind have priority over all orders issued by civilian agencies.
2. The Russian territory which is to be occupied shall be divided up into individual states with governments of their own, according to special orders, as soon as military operations are concluded. From this the following is inferred:
a. The area of operations, created through the advance of the Army beyond the frontiers of the Reich and the neighboring countries is to be limited in depth as far as possible. The Supreme Commander of the Army has the right to exercise the executive power in this area, and may transfer his authority onto the Supreme Commanders of the Army Groups and Armies.
b. In the area of operations, the Reichsfuehrer SS is, on behalf of the Fuehrer, entrusted with special tasks for the preparation of the political administration, tasks which result from the struggle which has to be carried out between two opposing political systems. Within the realm of these tasks, the Reichsfuehrer SS shall act independently and under his own responsibility. The executive power invested in the Supreme Commander of the Army (OKH) and in agencies determined by him shall not be affected by this. It is the responsibility of the Reichsfuehrer SS that through the execution of his tasks military operations shall not be disturbed. Details shall be arranged directly through the OKH with the Reichsfuehrer SS.
c. As soon as the area of operations has reached sufficient depth, it is to be limited in the rear. The newly occupied territory in the rear of the area of operations is to be given its own political administration. For the present, it is to be divided, according to its genealogic basis and to the positions of the Army Groups, into North (Baltic countries), Center (White Russia) and South (Ukraine). In these territories the political administration is taken care of by Commissioners of the Reich who receive their orders from the Fuehrer.
3. For the execution of all military tasks within the areas under the political administration in the rear of the area of operations, commanding officers who are responsible to the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces (OKW) shall be in command. The commanding officer is the supreme representative of the Armed Forces in the respective areas and the bearer of the military sovereign rights. He has the tasks of a Territorial Commander and the rights of a supreme Army Commander or a Commanding General. In this capacity he is responsible primarily for the following tasks:
a. Close cooperation with the Commissioner of the Reich in order to support him in his political task.
b. Exploitation of the country and securing its economic values for use by German industry (see par. 4).
c. Exploitation of the country for the supply of the troops according to the needs of the OKH.
d. Military security of the whole area, mainly airports, routes of supply and supply-dumps against revolt, sabotage and enemy paratroops.
e. Traffic regulations.
f. Billeting for armed forces, police and organizations, and for PW's inasmuch as they remain in the administrative areas.
The commanding officer has the right, as opposed to the civilian agencies, to issue orders which are necessary for the execution of the military tasks. His orders supersede all others, also those of the commissioners of the Reich.
Service directives, mobilization orders and directives on the distribution of the necessary forces shall be issued separately.
The time for the assumption of command by the commanding officers will be ordered as soon as the military situation shall allow a change in the command without disrupting military operations. Until such time, the agencies set up by the OKH remain in office, operating according to the principles valid for the commanding officers.
4. The Fuehrer has entrusted the uniform direction of the administration of economy in the area of operations and in the territories of political administration to the Reich Marshal who has delegated the Chief of the "Wi Rue Amt" with the execution of the task. Special orders on that will come from the OKW/ Wi Rue Amt.
5. The majority of the Police Forces shall be under the jurisdiction of the Commissioners of the Reich. Requests for the employment of police forces in the area of operations on the part of the OKH are to be made as early as possible to the OKW/ Armed Forces Operational Staff/ Section Defense.
6. The behavior of the troops towards the population and the tasks of the military courts shall be separately regulated, and commanded.
II. Personnel, Supply and Communication Traffic:
7. Special orders shall be issued by the OKW Armed Forces Operational Staff for the measures necessary before the beginning of operations for the restriction of travel, delivery of goods and communications to Russia.
8. As soon as operations begin, the German-Soviet Russian frontier and at a later stage the border at the rear of the area of operations will be closed by the OKH for any and all non-military traffic with the exception of the police organizations to be deployed by the Reichsfuehrer SS on the Fuehrer's orders. Billeting and feeding of these organizations will be taken care of by the OKH-Gen. Qu. who may for this purpose request from the Reichsfuehrer SS the assignment of liaison officers.
The border shall remain closed also for leading personalities of the highest government agencies and agencies of the Party. The OKW/ Armed Forces Operational Staff shall inform the highest government and Party agencies of this fact. The Supreme Commander of the Army and the agencies under him shall decide on exceptions.
Except for the special regulations appIying to the police organizations of the Reichsfuehrer SS, applications for entrance-permits must be submitted to the Supreme Commander of the Army exclusively.
III. Regulations regarding Rumania, Slovakia, Hungary and Finland.
9. The necessary arrangements with these countries shall be made by the OKW, together with the Foreign Office, and according to the wishes of the respective high commands. In case it should become necessary during the course of the operations to grant special rights, applications for this purpose are to be submitted to the OKW.
10. Police measures for the protection of the troops are permitted, independently from the granting of special rights. Further orders in this shall be issued later.
11. Special orders shall be issued at a later date for the territories of these countries, on the following subjects:
Procurement of food and feed.
Housing and machinery.
Purchase and the shipment of merchandise. Procurement of funds and wage-control.
Salaries.
Request for indemnity-payments.
Postal and telegraph services.
Traffic.
Jurisdiction.
Requests of units of the Armed Forces and agencies of the OKW from the respective governments regarding these subjects, are to be submitted to the OKW/ Armed Forces Operational Staff/ Section Defense not later than 27 March 1941.
IV. Directives regarding Sweden.
12. Since Sweden can only become a transient-area for troops, no special authority is to be granted the commander of the German troops. However, he is entitled and compelled to secure the immediate protection of RR-transports against sabotage and attacks.
The Chief of the High Command of the Armed Forces
Signed : KEITEL
Distribution:
OKH-1st copy.
OKM-2nd copy.
R. d. L. u. O. K. L.-3rd copy.
Armed Forces Operational Staff-4th copy.
Section L-5th copy.

Best Regards from Russia,

Schicklgruber escribió:

JuanSebastian escribió:Y que puedes decir de los judios asesinados, los comunistas, los homosexuales? La exclusion la injerencia, la expansion, la hegemonia fascista?

¿Te bajo el ataque moralista?... Hehehehehehehe!

Puedo decir que los medios de comunicación, las religiones con valores subterraneos (anti-fuerza con falta de vitalidad) han manipulado la realidad, tengo fotos y fotos, videos y videos, escrituras y escrituras que se ven los montajes judíos, los campos deconcentración sin lugar a duda existieron, habian de todo.

Los ingleses no tenian, los rusos tampoco, ¿que hacian con los presos? ¿Jugaban a las damas o al ajedrez? Un amigo de mi abuelo que es ingles o era, nose si estará vivo aún, dijo que muchos de los aliados, los rusos mismos, no sabian contra que se enfrentaban, seguian una orden y estaban enfanatisados (Ojo! el fanatismo es bueno) y no vieron que el judío que les dominaba era el mísmo que hacia propaganda contra el alemán. Como te dije por parte de madre son ucranianos, se bastante de ambos lados y la verdad es mas cruda, hay que saber tragar también las verdades amargas.

Las camaras de gas, la matanza de 6.000.000 todo esto es una broma, tengo tanto material, no solo material físico, sino que material espíritual, mi abuelo sabe, mi vis abuelo que en paz descanse sabe lo que es el marxismo. El fue comunista antes de su muerte dejo de serlo, por parte de padres que son españoles también tengo relacionados con la derecha (basura) y la izquierda (basura). Asi que cuando quieras te paso material compadre ok? No te enojes con esto lo hago en lo mas buena onda, sería bueno hablar con cam para que veas como fumo mientras rio... no hahahahahaha! no fumo, soy mas sano que jesucristo superstar! y eso que soy Ateo!

(b) The SS as an exterminator of "inferior" races.

Domination of Europe through a Nazi Elite required more, however, than the positive side of racism-that is, the building up of a numerous "biologically superior" group. It necessarily meant also the destruction of other races. The SS had to be, and was, taught not merely to breed, but to exterminate. In a speech delivered at Kharkov in April 1943, Himmler declared:

"We have-I would say, as very consistent National Socialists-taken the question of blood as our starting point. We were the first really to solve the problem of blood by action, and in this connection by problem of blood, we of course do not mean antisemitism. Antisemitism is exactly the same as delousing. Getting rid of lice is not a question of ideology. It is a matter of cleanliness. In just the same way, antisemitism for us, will soon have been dealt with. We shall soon be deloused. We have only 20,000 lice left, and then the matter is finished within the whole of Germany." (1919-PS)

But it was not merely against Jews that SS efforts were directed. All non-Nordic races were similarly condemned. In his Posen speech, Himmler stated this basic principle of the SS:

"One basic principle must be the absolute rule for the SS men : We must be honest, decent, loyal and comradely to members of our own blood and to nobody else. What happens to a Russian, to a Czech, does not interest me in the slightest. What other nations can offer in the way of good blood of our type, we will take, if necessary, by kidnapping their children and raising them here with us. Whether nations live in prosperity or starve to death interests me only so far as we need them as slaves for our culture; otherwise, it is of no interest to me. Whether 10,000 Russian females fall down from exhaustion while digging an antitank ditch interests me only insofar as the antitank ditch for Germany is finished." * * *
"That is what I want to instil into this SS and what I'believe I have instilled in them as one of the most sacred laws of the future." (1919-PS)

(c) Indoctrination of members in SS racial theories.

These were the principles which were publicly reiterated, over and over again, so that the newest recruit was thoroughly steeped in them. In his Kharkov speech to the commanding officers of three Waffen SS divisions, Himmler strongly insisted on indoctrinating all SS members in his theories of the racial struggle.

"This is what is important for us as SS men, for, our province of duty and our mission (it is a task additional to those of the whole German armed forces and the whole German people): That is what I would like to impress upon you. This is what I beg you as commanding officers, as chiefs and as leaders, to teach the young men again and again in their ideological instruction. That is what I demand and exact of you-that you really concern yourself with the man, the young fellow of 17 or 18 who comes to us, and with many who are in our ranks not as volunteers but as conscripts. I ask you to look after them, and guide them, and not let them go before they are really saturated with our spirit and are fighting as the old guard fought before us-that is what I request and demand of you.
"We have only one task-to stand firm and carry on the racial struggle without mercy." 1919-PS)

This function of the SS men in the racial struggle was publicly proclaimed in the Organizations Book of the NSDAP for 1943:

"He openly and relentlessly fights against the most dangerous enemies of the State: Jews, Freemasons, Jesuits and political clergymen." (2640-PS)

(7) Functions and activities with respect to commission of war crimes.

During the war great use was made of the peculiar qualities possessed by the SS-qualities not only of its combat force, but of its other components as well-in executing tasks embracing the commission of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

(a) "Antipartisan" operations.

A directive issued by Keitel on 13 March 1941, making preparations 3 months in advance for the attack on Russia, provided that in the area of operations the Reichsfuehrer SS was entrusted with special tasks for the preparation of the political administration-tasks which would result from the struggle about to commence between two opposing political systems. (447-PS)

One of the steps taken by the Reichsfuehrer SS to carry out those "special tasks" was the formation and use of so-called "antipartisan" units. They were discussed by Himmler in his Posen speech:

"In the meantime I have also set up the Chief of the antipartisan units. Our comrade SS Obergruppenfuehrer von dem Bach is Chief of the antipartisan units. I considered it necessary for the Reidhsfuehrer SS to be in authoritative command in all these battles, for I am convinced that we are best in position to take action against this enemy struggle, which is decidedly a political one. Except where units which had been supplied and which we had formed for this purpose were taken from us to fill in gaps at the front, we have been very successful.
"It is notable that by setting up this department, we have gained for the SS in turn, a division, a corps, an army, and the next step-which is the High Command of an army or area of a group-if you wish to call it that." (1919-PS)

What the SS did with its division, corps, and army, out of which the antipartisan units were formed, is illustrated in the "Activity and Situation Report No. 6 of the Task Forces of the Security Police and SD in the U. S. S. R.," covering the period from 1 to 31 October 1941 (R-102). The report shows that so-called "anti-partisan" activity was actually nothing but a name for extermina-tion of Jews and persons believed politically undesirable. The report is a carefully organized and detailed description of such extermination. Section I describes the stations of the various Task Forces involved, and section II their activities. The latter section is divided into parts, each dealing with a different geo-graphical region-the Baltic area, White Ruthenia, and the Ukraine. Under each area the report of activities is classified under three headings : (a) Partisan activity and counteraction ; (b) arrests and executions of communists and officials; and (c) Jews. The following units were involved (R-l02):

"The present stations are

"Task Force A : since 7 October 1941 Krasnowardeisk.
"Task Force B : continues in Smolensk.
"Task Force C: since 27 September 1941 in Kiew.
"Task Force D: since 27 September 1941 in Nikolajew.

"The Action and Special Commandos (Einsatz und Sonder Commandos) which are attached to the Task Force continue on the march with the advancing troops into the sectors which have been assigned to them." (R-102)

The section headed "Baltic area" and subsection labeled "Jews" read as follows (R-102):

"Spontaneous demonstrations against Jewry followed by pogroms on the part of the population against the remaining Jews have not been recorded on account of the lack of adequate indoctrination.
"However, the Estonian Protective Corps (Selbtschutz), formed at the time of the entry of the Wehrmacht, immediately started a comprehensive arrest action of all Jews. This action was under the direction of the task force of the Security Police and the SD." * * *
"The male Jews over 16 were executed with the exception of doctors and the elders. At the present time this action is still in progress. After completion. of this action there will remain only 500 Jewesses and children in the Eastern Territory." (R-102)

In the section headed "White Ruthenia," the subsection labeled "Partisan activity and counteraction," the following appear:

"In Wultschina 8 juveniles were arrested as partisans and shot. They were inmates of a children's home. They had collected weapons which they hid in the woods. Upon search the following were found: 3 heavy machine guns, 15 rifles, several thousand rounds of ammunition, several hand grenades, and several packages of poison gas, Ebrit.

"b. Arrests and executions of communists, officials, and criminals.

"A further large part of the activity of the Security Police was devoted to the combatting of Communists and criminals. A special Commando in the period covered by this report executed 63 officials, NKVD agents and agitators.(R-102)

The preceding subsection ends with the following statement:

"The liquidations for the period covered by this report have reached a total of 37,180 persons." (R-102)

And under the section headed "Ukraine," the subsection "Jews," this statement occurs:

"Shitomir
In Shitomir 3,145 Jews had to be shot,. because from expe-rience they have to be regarded as bearers of Bolshevik propa-ganda and saboteurs." (R-1 02)

The foregoing report deals with the activities of four Task Forces-A, B, C, and D. The more detailed report of Task Force A up to 16 October 1941 shows great variety of SS components in such a task force:

"This description of the over-all situation showed and shows that the members of the Stapo [The Secret State Police], Kripo and SD [Security Service] who are attached to the Action-Group, are active mainly in Lithouania, Latvia, Esthonia, White-Ruthenia and to a smaller part in front of Leningrad. It shows further that the forces of the uniformed police and the Armed SS are active mainly in front of Leningrad, in order to take measures against the returning population and under their own officers. This is so much easier because the Action detachments in Lithouania, Latvia and Esthonia have at their disposal native police units, as described in encl. 1, and because so far 150 Latvian reinforcements have been sent to White-Ruthenia.
"The distribution of the leaders of Security Police and SD during the individual phases can be gathered from encl. 2, the advance and the activities of the Action-Group and the Action-detachments from encl. 3. It should be mentioned that the leaders of the Armed-SS and of the uniformed police who are reserves have declared their wish to stay on with the Security Police and the SD." (L-180)

Polish POWs

See also: Massacre in Ciepielów

Numerous examples exist in which Polish soldiers were killed after capture, for instance at Śladów where 252 prisoners of war (POW)s were shot or drowned, at Ciepielów where some 300 POWs were killed, and at Zambrów where a further 300 POWs were killed. Polish POWs of Jewish origin were routinely selected and shot on the spot.[6] The prisoners of the POW camp in Żyrardów, captured after the Battle of the Bzura, were denied any food and starved for 10 days.[7] In many cases Polish POWs, once captured, were burned alive.[4][8] Units of the Polish 7th Infantry Division were massacred after being captured in several individual acts of revenge for their defence in combat. On September 11, Wehrmacht soldiers threw hand grenades into a school building where they kept Polish POWs

Mass rapes during invasion of Poland

Rapes were committed by Wehrmacht forces on women and girls during the Invasion of Poland.[4]

Rapes were also committed against Polish women and girls during mass executions carried out primarily by the Selbstschutz, which were accompanied by Wehrmacht soldiers and on territory under the administration of the German military; the rapes were carried-out before shooting female captives.[9]

Only one case of rape was prosecuted by German court during the military campaign in Poland, the case of mass rape by German soldiers committed by three soldiers against the Jewish family of Kaufmann in Busko-Zdrój; however the German judge sentenced the guilty for Rassenschande - shame against the [German] race as defined by racial policy of Nazi Germany and not rape

Destruction of Warsaw
See also: Battle of Warsaw (1939) and Warsaw Uprising
During World War II 85% of buildings in Warsaw were destroyed by German troops.

Up to 13,000 soldiers and between 120,000 and 200,000 civilians were killed by German-led forces during the Warsaw Uprising. At least 5,000 German regular soldiers assisted the SS in crushing the Polish resistance, most of them reserve units.[11] Human shields were used by German forces during the fighting

Barbarossa Decree


The background behind the Barbarossa Decree was laid out by Adolf Hitler during high level meeting with military officials on March 30, 1941[13], where he declared that war against Soviet Russia will be a war of extermination, in which both the political and intellectual elites of Russia will be eradicated by German forces, in order to ensure long lasting German victory[13].Hitler underlined that executions won't be the matter for military courts, but for organised action of the military[13]. The decree, issued by Field Marshal Keitel a few weeks before Operation Barbarossa, exempted punishable offences committed by enemy civilians (in Russia) from the jurisdiction of military justice. Suspects were to be brought before an officer who would decide if they were to be shot. Prosecution of offenses against civilians by members of the Wehrmacht was decreed to be "not required" unless necessary for the maintenance of discipline. The order specified:

* "The partisans are to be ruthlessly eliminated in battle or during attempts to escape," and all attacks by civilian population against Wehrmacht soldiers are to be "suppressed by the army on the spot by using extreme measures, till annihilation of the attackers';
* Every officer in the German occupation in the East of the future will be entitled to performing execution without trial, without any formalities, on any person suspected of having a hostile attitude towards the Germans (the same applied to prisoners of war);
* If you have not managed to identify and punish the perpetrators of anti-German acts, you are allowed to apply the principle of collective responsibility. "Collective measures" against residents of the area where the attack occurred can then be applied after approval by the battalion commander or higher level of command;
* The German soldiers who committed crimes against humanity, the USSR and the prisoners of war were to be exempted from criminal responsibility, even if they committed acts punishable according to German law [13][14]

The order went in line with interests of Wehrmacht command which was eager to secure logistical facilities and routes behind the frontlines for the division on the Eastern Front[14]. On May 24, 1941 Field Marshal Walther von Brauchitsch the head of German Army High Command (Oberkommando des Heeres - OKH), slightly modified assumptions of "Barbarossa Jurisdiction." His orders were to use the jurisdiction only in cases where the discipline of the army wouldn't suffer. Contrary to what was claimed after the war, the Wehrmacht generals such as Heinz Guderian did not intend to mitigate the records of the jurisdiction of an order, or in any way violated the intentions of Hitler[14]. His command was intended solely to prevent an individual excesses which could damage discipline within army ranks, without changing the extermination intentions of the order[13].

Mass Rapes

Rapes were allowed in practice by German military in Eastern and Southeastern Europe, while northern and western countries were spared[15] Historian Szymon Datner wrote in his work about fate of POW's taken by Wehrmacht that thousands of Soviet female nurses, doctors and field medics fell victim to rape when captured during the war, and had often been murdered afterwards.[13] Ruth Seifert in War and Rape. Analytical Approaches writes: "in the Eastern territories the Wehrmacht used to brand the bodies of captured partisan women - and other women as well - with the words "Whore for Hitler's troops" and to use them accordingly."[16]

Birgit Beck in her work Rape: The Military Trials of Sexual Crimes Committed by Soldiers in the Wehrmacht, 1939-1944 describes the leniency in punishing sex crimes by German authorities in the East, at the same time pointing out heavy punishments applied in the West[17] If a soldier who committed a rape was subsequently convicted by a court-martial, he would usually be sentenced to four years in prison.[18] The German penal code was also valid for soldiers in war.[19]

Rapes were rarely prosecuted in practice however; in Denmark where German rapes weren't widespread, even though German officials promised to punish them, this was far from being the case[15].

Rape by Germans of non-German women wasn't taken seriously, nor was it punishable by death, especially in territories of Eastern Europe[20].

In Soviet Russia rapes were only a concern if they undermined military discipline[17]. The German military command viewed them as another method to crush Soviet resistance [20] Since 1941, rape was theoretically punishable with the death sentence, however this was only concerning the rapes of German women and was intended to protect the German communities[20].

In October 1940 the laws on rape were changed, making it a "petitioned crime"-that is a crime for which punishment had to be requested. Historian Christa Paul writes that this resulted in “a nearly complete absence of prosecution and punishment for rapes”[20].They were rape cases in the east where the perpetrators were sentenced;if the rape was highly visible, and damaging to image of German Army, the courts were willing to pass a condemning verdict against the accused[20].

According to historian Regina Mühlhäuser Wehrmacht also used sexual torture and undressing in numerous cases of interrogations[21]

The estimates regarding the rapes of Soviet women by Wehrmacht reach up to 10,000,000 cases, with between 750,000 and 1,000,000 children born as a result.

Wehrmacht brothel system

Main article: German military brothels in World War II

The Wehrmacht also ran brothels where women were forced to work.[16][25] The reason for establishing those brothels was the fear by German officials of veneral diseases, onanism, and as Oberfeldarzt der Wehrmacht (Chief Field Doctor of Wehrmacht) stated "the danger of spread of homosexualism"[10][26]

On May 3, 1941 the Foreign Ministry of Polish Government in Exile issued a document describing the mass raids made in Polish cities with the aim of capturing young women, who later were forced to work in brothels attended by German soldiers and officers[10]

In Soviet Union women were kidnapped by German forces for prostitution as well; one report by International Military Tribunal writes "in the city of Smolensk the German Command opened a brothel for officers in one of the hotels into which hundreds of women and girls were driven; they were mercilessly dragged down the street by their arms and hair

In Eastern Europe the German authorities were faced with the issue of lack of personnel. Their solution was to force local women into prostitution[2]. Girls as young as 15 years old were classified as suitable for agricultural work in Germany and later sexually abused by German soldiers at their place of destination[2]. On 3rd May 1941 the Foreign Ministry of Polish Government in Exile issued a document describing the mass raids made in Polish cities with the aim of capturing young women, who later were forced to work in brothels attended by German soldiers and officers[2]. In Soviet Union women were kidnapped by German forces for prostitution as well; one report by International Military Tribunal writes "in the city of Smolensk the German Command opened a brothel for officers in one of the hotels into which hundreds of women and girls were driven; they were mercilessly dragged down the street by their arms and hair

POW Camps
See also: Prisoner of war and Geneva Convention (1929)

The Third Geneva Convention (1929) relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War had been signed by Germany and most other countries in 1929, while the USSR and Japan did not sign until after the war (final version of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949).

This meant that Germany was legally obliged to treat all POWs according to it, while in turn, Germans captured by the Red Army could not expect to be treated in such a manner. Additionally, the Soviet Union and Japan did not treat prisoners of war in accordance with the Geneva Convention.

While the Wehrmacht's prisoner-of-war camps for prisoners from the west generally satisfied the humanitarian conditions prescribed by international law, prisoners from Poland (which never capitulated) and the USSR were incarcerated under significantly worse conditions.

By December 1941, more than 2.4 million Soviet Red Army troops had been taken prisoner. These prisoners suffered from malnutrition and diseases like typhus that resulted from the Wehrmacht's failure to provide sufficient food, shelter, proper sanitation and medical care for the prisoners. Prisoners were regularly subject to torture, beatings and humiliation.

Between the launching of Operation Barbarossa in the summer of 1941 and the following spring, 2.8 million of the 3.2 million prisoners taken died while in German hands.[28] The German failure to attain their anticipated victory in the East led to significant shortages of labor for German war production, and beginning in 1942, prisoners of war in the eastern POW camps — primarily Soviets — were seen as a source of slave labor to keep Germany's wartime economy running.[28]

A grand total of 5.7 million Soviet soldiers were taken prisoner during the war, of whom at least 3.3 million (58 percent of the total) died in captivity

Many letters from Wehrmacht soldiers were published in 1941 and entitled "German Soldiers See the Soviet Union"; this publication includes authentic letters from soldiers on the Eastern front. To give an example of the intensive indoctrination "that transcends the mere results of military service" researchers Judith Levin and Daniel Uziel quote a German soldier writing:

"The German people is deeply indebted to the Fuehrer, because if these animals, our enemies here, had reached Germany, murders of a nature not yet witnessed in the world would have occurred.... No newspaper can describe what we have seen. It verges on the unbelievable, and even the Middle Ages do not compare with what has transpired here. Reading Der Stuermer and observing its photos give only a limited impression of what we have seen here and of the crimes committed here by the Jews."

Judith Levin and Daniel Uziel state that this type of writing and opinion was very common in correspondence left by German soldiers, especially on the Eastern Front[36].

3) La economía nazi de preguerra no tuvo nada de socialista en el sentido puro del término. Hitler estuvo limitado en todo tiempo por los problemas económicos que en el plano interno se derivaban de una dinámica económica capitalista. Si analizamos su política de rearme, que fue su absoluta prioridad, veremos que tuvo que supeditarse a problemas similares a los de las economías e industrias de países capitalistas liberales, mutatis mutandis (es decir, sin problemas de parlamentos, partidos políticos y sindicatos obreros). Y siendo Alemania como era un país totalmente dependiente del exterior para la obtención de materias primas estratégicas necesarias para su rearme (petróleo y demás materias primas como manganeso, hierro, caucho, etc.), dependía absolutamente del estado de su balanza de pagos para conseguir las divisas necesarias para poder importar y pagar esos productos.

Evidentemente, Alemania no practicó, voluntariamente, una economía de mercado libre, donde la relación de la oferta y la demanda marcan los precios y su evolución, sino que impuso mecanismos reguladores que eran completamente extraños a las economías liberales. Y en su mercado exterior limitó las importaciones todo lo que le fue permitiendo la situación (impulsando el incremento de la producción sintética interna de productos como la gasolina y el caucho), mientras que subvencionó sus exportaciones (que eran urgentemente necesarias por la cuestión de divisas). Sólo que los mercados exteriores, especialmente Estados Unidos, reaccionaron gravando o limitando, como respuesta, las importaciones de Alemania.

Pero tanto en su política económica interior como exterior, el régimen nazi primó (y de que manera) la explotación de recursos productivos por la industria de propiedad privada (se hicieron auténticas fortunas ya antes de la guerra), independientemente de que el principal cliente de esas industrias fuese el propio estado. Y en todo ese proceso de marcación de prioridades económicas (rearme), obtención de sus recursos, contratación y explotación no existe rastro alguno de socialismo económico.

En cuanto a las comparaciones que preguntas, obviando que Estados Unidos era una democracia liberal y Alemania un estado totalitario, la economía nazi se vio limitada por cuestiones más propias de las economías liberales (consumo interno) que de la economía de la Unión Soviética.

Si las economías de libre mercado existieron alguna vez en la realidad, desde luego el Tercer Reich era una de ellas, y no más intervercionista que algunas que observamos como paradigmas de los sistemas del capitalismo liberal -EE.UU., Gran Bretaña-.

Otra cosa totalmente diferente es que desde la tradición historiográfica anglosajona hagan verdaderas piruetas conceptuales para tratar de demostrar que bajo en nazismo no existía ni el capitalismo ni la libre empresa.

Respecto a la emisión de deuda, entre 1937 y 1939 el gobierno alemán en la práctica doblo la cantidad de papel moneda en circulación para financiarse. Esto, naturalmente, causa los problemas inflacionistas que eran previsibles.

No es que no se pueda demostrar que Alemania caminaba con paso firme hacia el colapso, es que el 1938 en la práctica la economía Alemana ya estaba colapsada.

La única forma que encontro el estado de finananciarse fue devaluando su moneda, y obligando a sus provedoder a coger el 40% del importe de los pedidos en deuda con un rendimiento fijo, que a su vez se devaluava por la incesante emisión de moneda.

El milagro económico alemán en la practica se limito a una política pseudokeynesinista, basada en el endeudamiento progresivo y la devaluación de la moneda, que además tuvo el efecto de reducir el paro a practicamente el 0%, lo que para una economía que en el fondo es capitalista es un efecto nada deseable, pues provoca una rigidez estructural incompatble con el traslado d emano de obra a los sectores donde es precisa.

Se puede decir, sin termo a equivocarse, que la economía alemana combinaba lo peor de las economías planificadas y lo peor de las economías de mercado -o al menos algunos de sus efectos menos beneficiosos-.

¡Hola a todos!

sopas escribió:
Los origenes socialistas del nazismo son bien conocidos. Ernst Roehm quería incluso disolver el ejército y sustituirlo por un ejercito popular con sus SA, quería una segunda revolución en Alemania, pero por ahi Hitler no tragó por que necesitaba al Heer de su lado y por eso ordenó su arresto y posterior ejecución.


El Partido Nacional Socialista Alemán, desde su fundación, sólo tuvo de "socialismo" el nombre y un programa político que, una vez en el poder, jamás se llevó a la práctica en cuanto a sus propuestas de "socialismo". El añadido del término "socialista" no fue más que un movimiento táctico para atraer al partido a la clase obrera.

Pero mal iremos en la deriva de este hilo si no aclaramos previamente los conceptos, para no desvirtuarlos o inventarles nuevos significados.

Ya se ha dicho anteriormente, pero ahora lo matizo. El socialismo, como doctrina, propugna la propiedad pública de los "medios de producción, de cambio y de distribución, generalmente basada en el control del poder político por parte del proletariado y en contraposición con el individualismo de raíz burguesa" (Larousse). Y en economía política: "Modo de producción basado en el carácter social de las fuerzas productivas, en el cual los trabajadores, como productores inmediatos, dominan sus condiciones de existencia y, en primer lugar, los medios de producción y sus productos" (Larousse).

Estas definiciones son sencillas pero esclarecedoras. Cierto que no hay que ser economista para dar una opinión sobre economía, pero es conveniente ser un poco más prudente a la hora de sentenciar sobre temas que no dominamos.

Saludos cordiales

Se me olvidaba una cuestión.

Si Hitler hubiese defendido una política económica socialista en sus conversaciones privadas de enero de 1933 con los representantes políticos de los partidos conservadores y nacionalistas alemanes (lease von Papen y Hugenberg, fundamentalmente), que repesentaban a su vez al mundo de la gran industria y las finanzas, digo que si abogara por eso, entonces jamás habría llegado a Canciller de Weimar. Y si ya como Canciller del Reich hubiera intentado aplicar una política económica socialista, incluso después de haber prohibido los partidos políticos y sindicatos existentes en Weimar, sería automáticamente eliminado por Hindenburg y el Reichswehr, que tenían todo el apoyo de la clase dominante.

La política económica que aplicó el régimen nazi entre 1933-1939, con ser intervencionista, no tuvo un ápice de socialista, en el sentido propio del término.

Saludos cordiales

Uno de los tópicos más preciados por los admiradores del III Reich es que los nacionalsocialistas, en realidad, lo que querían era liberar a los pueblos de Europa del bolchevismo, a Sudamérica del capitalismo estadounidense y al planeta en general del colonialismo. Que si cometieron “algún exceso”, fue obligado por el transcurso de la guerra y los malvados resistentes a su labor civilizadora. Pero este discurso de Himmler en una reunión con sus Gruppenführers revela otra cosmovisión, antes de que las derrotas militares y el rechazo de la Wehrmacht obligase a las Waffen SS a acoger voluntarios de toda laya.

Este discurso fue pronunciado para los más altos cargos de las SS en febrero de 1937, cuando los nazis apenas han remilitarizado el Sarre y participan más o menos disimuladamente en la guerra civil española. Faltan 13 meses para el Anschluss, 20 para los pactos de Munich, y dos años para que Hitler incumpla esos mismos pactos y disuelva lo que queda de Checoslovaquia, incumpliendo de paso también todas las garantías que había dado sobre que no aspiraba incorporar ningún territorio que no fuera “de cultura alemana”.

Reunión de jefes de grupo de la SS (rango equivalente a generales de división), en Bad Tölz, junto a la frontera austríaca, 18 de febrero de 1937 :

A veces, en círculos nacionalistas se sueña con que algún día conquistaremos el mundo. Yo también pienso así, aunque por ahora no hablemos de eso. Pero también soy consciente de que debemos actuar por etapas. Hoy día, no tendríamos los hombres suficientes para colonizar ni siquiera otra provincia, otra zona o un país que fuera sólo la mitad de grande que Alemania. Que tampoco podemos hacernos cargo de población alguna es algo que también está claro. Y de que barreremos hasta la última abuela y el último niño –sin piedad— si tenemos que hacernos cargo de una provincia que no sea de sangre germánica, de eso espero que tampoco quepa duda; ni de que entonces necesitaremos a la población, la racialmente buena, para asentarla allí, para comenzar, sin más, a reasentar y criar en torno a la Alemania actual a cien millones de campesinos germánicos y tomar el camino hacia la dominación universal que ostentamos una vez, haciendo el mundo más bello de lo que ahora es, inspirándonos siempre en las ideas arias.

BAB NS 19/4004. Longerich, Peter: Heinrich Himmler. Biografía. (Heinrich Himmler. Biographie, 2008). Traducción de Richard Gross. RBA Libros, Barcelona 2009. Pg. 359.

vma1994 escribió:sin palabras... intentas justificar tu ideología denigrante igual que el capitalismo deifiende la suya solo con falacias: la falacia naturalista.
Me parece vergonzoso que ustedes sigan diciendo que el holocausto fuese mentira

SS-18 escribió:
EL NAZI ya esta baneado y tambien s eprocede a la sancion de otro usuario.
El NAZi y CatalinAvandrescher baneados por ser el mismo usuario.